Tuesday, February 25, 2014

100% guarantee that Anna Deeter does NOT make you stutter-free in 3 days!!

A TSB reader sent me the following email. If you have been in contact with her, contact the authorities!
You might be interested to take a look at Carl Herder's FB posting on Anna Deeter, an unlicensed speech therapist in California who's offering speech therapy in the guise of "training". Not only that, but a "I offer 100% success guarantee that at the end of the 3-day STUDY COURSE they will be stutter-free!! 
Carl is urging people to let the California licensing authorities know of her illegal activities.
Her program costs only $8000.
I suggest to Anna Deeter that she should charge the $8000 only after the person is cured. I am sure if she offers a 100% success guarantee, she is willing to wait for three days for the $8000! I would be very happy to give her the money for a cure!!!!

35 comments:

sachin said...

Thanks..
I know many gullible but IT savvy Indians fall prey to such cool operatos...
You are doing a great service..
Thanks again..

L said...

Leys Geddes has been working hard to make sure these types of claims are stopped in the UK (unless substantiated): http://www.stammering.org/claims.html
He contacted ASHA as well but I believe their attitude was "couldn't care less" and "let the buyer beware".

Anonymous said...

Public and open offer to Anna Deeter.

If you feel 100% confident in your 100% guarantee that you will "cure" my stutter, let me do the course, let me see the results, and if I am "cured", I will give you $10,000 and I will publicly promote your services in the stuttering community.

The "cure" must not be a temporary fix, it must be a cure as you claim to offer.

I'm keeping an open mind as to whether it works or not, I'm not name calling or saying anything about your program until you prove to ME either way that it works or not.

If YOU feel confident, you should take me up on this, as you will get more than the $8k course donation/fee PLUS you will get great publicity.

It's in your court now Anna.

sachin said...

Cure or no cure - I am beginning to get impressed by the fee people are charging now a days..
Another program being offered in India, is charging INR 99360/- THAT is -6 MONTHS wages of many Indians in this country..
I think it proves the law of demand and supply: If demand is DESPERATE, Anna and her ilk will offer fully certified CURE for a "reasonable" fee.. The "enterprise" goes on and on because a sucker (=stutter) is born every minute, as the Americans say..

Anonymous said...

I have been listening to Anna Deeter for over a year, appreciated her facebook classroom at Live Stutter Free, and I'd say that everything Anna says is consistent with normal natural speech, in my experience. I'm so glad that there is now a Speech Teacher who can help both English and Russian speaking pws to correct their speaking mistakes through speech education training. It is a new option for those pws who prefer to work on eliminating their stutter rather than 'accepting' their speaking mistakes as advocated by all speech language pathologists/therapists.

Payment for private courses / education is always paid in advance, the same as with ordering goods over the internet.

Anna Deeter said...

Hello!

Just a short comment here from the SOURCE:-)
I am ANNA DEETER. I am NOT a licensed SLP. (I DO NOT NEED A LICENSE for what I do.) I do NOT "treat", "cure", "teach" or "therapy" stuttering, stammering, cluttering, stutterers or stammerers.
I call myself ETALON WISDOM KEEPER. I share my unique knowledge about the Natural Algorithm of Speaking action in humans. Many people have come to me for this knowledge and I have used it to improve their own life, not just in speaking!!!! There are some who have utilized it for their own benefit(individuals with any type of deviation in speech). Others have had a goal to utilize it for the benefit of someone else (all levels of speech professionals).

No one can "cure", "treat", "help" or even "teach" your speaking muscles to produce the NORMAL speech. YOU are the only one who CAN do it.
I share information FREE of charge on my blog and anywhere I can online. People utilize this information, join our ETALON Wisdom Club and SPONSOR our enlightening scientific work. THEY (not I!) use the INFORMATION (not my persona) to SELF-coordinate their own speech muscles, MEMORY and ATTENTION. I am just an interpreter - I interpret the information to each and every person at his/her level to make the knowledge 100% understandable for him/her. My job is to SHARE INFORMATION, the rest is THEIR JOB!!!
Please, understand that there is only one possible way to become a normal speaker: SELF-learning, SELF-coordinating, SELF-generalizing and SELF-improving!!!!

Speaking is a skill - just like almost everything a human being does in his life. Mother Nature has given us a gift of ability to record information in our memory, delete it and record again the new, better information. We may thank ourselves only for everything we have learned.We can NOT complain to someone else or blame it on some circumstances if we did not learn something. It is never late to learn. You can learn to speak at any age, any time, in any condition. (Unless your lost an ability to remember...) The only requirement is REALIZE that NOBODY can do it for you. Stop waiting for a miracle, a "kind doctor" or any kind of a "therapist" to do the job that ONLY YOU CAN DO: learn to speak. Lots of love to you all. Success.

Anna Deeter said...

It has come to my attention today that people on other blogs discussing stuttering are confused. They do not understand who I am and what I do. They blame me for providing "speech therapy" - something that I cannot do without an SLP license. Here is what I wrote on one of the blogs.

"I am NOT a licensed SLP. (I DO NOT NEED A LICENSE for what I do.) I do NOT "treat", "cure", "teach" or "therapy" stuttering, stammering, cluttering, stutterers or stammerers.
I call myself ETALON WISDOM KEEPER. I share my unique knowledge about the Natural Algorithm of Speaking action in humans. Many people have come to me for this knowledge and they have used it to improve their own life, not just in speaking!!!! There have been some who have utilized it for their own benefit (individuals with any type of deviation in speech). Others have had a goal to utilize it for the benefit of someone else (all levels of speech professionals).

No one can "cure", "treat", "help" or even "teach" your speaking muscles to produce the NORMAL speech. YOU are the only one who CAN do it.
I share information FREE of charge on my blog and anywhere I can online. People can utilize this information, join our ETALON Wisdom Club and SPONSOR our enlightening scientific work. THEY (not I!) can use the INFORMATION (not my persona) to SELF-coordinate their own speech muscles, MEMORY and ATTENTION. I am just an interpreter - I interpret the information to each and every person at his/her level to make the knowledge 100% understandable for him/her. My job is to SHARE INFORMATION, the rest is THEIR JOB!!!
Please, understand that there is only one possible way to become a normal speaker: SELF-learning, SELF-coordinating, SELF-generalizing and SELF-improving!!!!

Speaking is a skill - just like almost everything we do in our life. Mother Nature has given us a gift of ability to record information in our memory, delete it and record again the new, better information. We may thank ourselves only for everything we have learned.We can NOT complain to someone else or blame it on some circumstances if we did not learn something. It is never late to learn. You can learn to speak at any age, any time, in any condition. (Unless your lost an ability to remember...) The only requirement is REALIZE that NOBODY can do it for you. Stop waiting for a miracle, a "kind doctor" or any kind of a "therapist" to do the job that ONLY YOU CAN DO: learn to speak. Lots of love to you all. Success.

Anonymous said...

Anna,

You have ignored the Friday 28 February post from "anonymous". They made you an offer ...

Mark Baldwin said...

Again my comment deleted. This proves that the stuttering community is one of selfishness and greed. "I have a cure that can change your life,but first you need to pay me". Im 46 years old and I have never seen such selfishness among a "disabled" group.

Grant M said...

Mark, this is not selfishness at all when faced with unproven claims and stories. The community itself is rallying against a opportunist and why is that so unreasonable. I personally have not seen such a universal backlash from a community against a technique and false advertising scheme. It makes you proud to be a united member. What is wrong with paying for a service after the fact? Happens in trade all the time. Three days work would entail little overheads with a $8000 payment at the end guaranteed upon 100% success rates. What is wrong with wanting the promised success before paying? You have to remember that there is no evidence for Etalon being successful for anyone. Anna usually states “Our before and after videos are success enough”. Come on……Etalon is meant to be a “scientific” method yet they have no scientific evidence to support it. It is almost a joke.
Now I know for a fact that some prominent people who stutter have offered to take an Etalon course free of charge and then promote it for Anna after their success also free. She has refused such offers. Why would she? One prominent PWS who is 100% devoid of stuttering afterwards would promote the course, earn her more money and be the first step of validation.
Now let’s talk about the Etalon mentality. Anna and followers believe that the medical industry, related academics and stuttering organisations are purposively keeping us all stuttering to earn money from us. Again without evidence. It is hard to believe a conspiracy theorist. Oh by the way, Anna in a prominent stuttering chat room also told people how her husband has cured cancer but “big business” has silenced him.
Anna also promotes her mentor Roman will the following findings on her website:

“Dr. Snezhko introduced to the world the following scientific paradigms:
- The Science of the Word and the Formation of Conscious Speech in Humans;
- The Science of “Rechevedenie” (Speech Self-Conduct);
- The Science of Sound Mathematics and Sound Information;
- The Science of Harmonic Melodies of Human Speech;
- The Theory of Stress and Fears;
- The Sound Matrix of Human Speech;
- The scientific “ETALON” method – the way to form and govern the human intellect.”

Again all without a shred of evidence! Do a Google search for Roman and his findings. Share the links of what you find.

I could go on and on as the community has been fighting this for nearly 2 years. But are we selfish? Perhaps. But we are bonded to fight a common enemy who is selfishly promoting lies, exorbitant fees and all without a shred of evidence. Also, Anna refuses to discuss the technique and evidence of at any form of academic forum. Why?

Mark Baldwin said...

Grant, I think you misconstrued my statement. I see nothing wrong with paying after services rendered. In fact, Anna would be an utter fool not to use this as a great promotional tool. I merely stated that the stuttering community as a whole seems very money-oriented and exhibits a lack of willingness to extend help for those who ask.

The thing that intrigues me about Anna is her confidence in her system, regardless if they are false or not> We don't know if they are. Wonder if they aren't false? Imagine if her system is the one. The stuttering community also is nowhere near a "cure". There are millions suffering out there and now with the job economy the way it is, we cannot afford to give employers a reason now to hire us.

Mark

Anonymous said...

I seen a Video Anna has on Youtube before I seen this blog..and left her a comment on her Miraculous claim of curing Stuttering in 3 Days as being bogus.As a PWS it makes angry how she can try and con Stutterers out of such a sum of money.She needs to be banned from Cyberspace!

Rob Harwood said...

Has anyone known of anyone who has forked out the money to try this program? I am fascinated with the ideas behind it, but there are too many red flags to jump in head first without more evidence. I recently contacted her asking her if she has had any graduates through her program that, like myself, had already gone through the Hollins (HCRI) program. She merely said she has heard of Hollins, but continued to harass me about anyone else's success not having anything to do with my own. TRUE! But if you think I'm doling out $8000 without getting to talk to a success story myself, how can I trust you? Any info or knowledge of people who have gone through this program would be awesome, thanks guys!

PS: Funny how the one comment that was praising Anna was anonymous, who are all of these reformed and newly fluent speakers that are afraid to show their identity?!

Stephen said...

I made this offer to Anna in February and was not taken up on the offer.

IF it were a bona-fide "cure" she should be keen to accept the offer, as she is 100% confident of a good result. That being more money than the usual "donation" and also great publicity.

So I make the offer again...


Public and open offer to Anna Deeter.

If you feel 100% confident in your 100% guarantee that you will "cure" my stutter, let me do the course, let me see the results, and if I am "cured", I will give you $10,000 and I will publicly promote your services in the stuttering community.

The "cure" must not be a temporary fix, it must be a cure as you claim to offer.

I'm keeping an open mind as to whether it works or not, I'm not name calling or saying anything about your program until you prove to ME either way that it works or not.

If YOU feel confident, you should take me up on this, as you will get more than the $8k course donation/fee PLUS you will get great publicity.

It's in your court now Anna.

Mark Baldwin said...

Rob, I have had many email and chat conversations with Anna and 99% of the time she is brash and offensive; mostly downright rude.

I 100% agree with you in your statement that why are the success stores standing on the mountain top shouting their fluency? I find that very hard to believe. However, I have always said the stuttering community is a very selfish community, in that most of the time successful people achieving fluency don't reach out and help others. For example, I had a Hollins grad refuse to talk to me or answer any questions. His video is on YouTube. I would never be this way if achieved fluency, or any level of success in any field/goal.

I asked her about the offer from Stephen and her response was well, none even though I showed her the offer. That baffles my mind that she wouldn't want to prove her program. However, in her defense, Stephen said he wouldn't pay unless its a life-long cure. Like with anything it takes work to continue to achieve or maintain success and her payment shouldn't be based upon someone's potential lack of effort. She makes no claim this is magic It takes damn hard work to be fluent. It just doesn't happen by itself.

I think she would have many more takers if her approach would lighten up and be not so "in your face" and downright ridiculing people, including myself.

Mark

Kevin Smith said...

I have done the etalon course, i did the course last july and payed the full amount which for me was 4000 pounds as anna offered a discount at the time and i took advantage of it. I would be willing to speak to any of you on Skype or Facebook and speak about my experience with the course. My time with the course has been very successful but i don't think i was expecting the amount of work on my side. If a person is not motivated to speaking 7 plus hours a day after the course then they will loose the habit of their stutter free speech. When i do everything anna tells me i am 100% stutter free and my speech becomes easy no matter the situation, however it is not a magic cure, speaking is a skill and if i stop reinforcing the habit i will slip back into my old habits. It about removing old bad habits and creating new correct ones. I would not recommend the course to any stutterer who wouldn't be motivated to speak everyday after the course but if a stutterer would be willing to put the effort in I would say 100% go for it, only if you can afford it. Anna also has a book on amazon which shares a lot of great information that can improve your speech and sample the method :) All the best, Kevin

Mark Baldwin said...

Kevin, why don't you just post WHAT YOU DO ON A DAILY BASIS so we can all decide for ourselves and maybe have some improved fluency? Email me at marktb at gmail dot com.

Mark Baldwin said...

marktb68@gmail.com. not marktb @gmail.com

Mark Baldwin said...

Attention Kevin Smith You are full of crap. You post you are willing to chat but you provide no contact info. Also, its been 2 weeks since your post and nothing. Yes, I know you've been busy. yada yada yada. it literally takes 30 secs to post something. If you truly were willing to help you'd make the time. #fullofshit

Ron Shone said...

Hi Kevin can you send me the book
Ron

Anonymous said...

Hi Kevin,

Are you able to provide any contact info to discuss the course (e-mail, Facebook etc.?

Thanks

Mark Baldwin said...

Kevin Smith is a fraud.

Anonymous said...


Mark, I've seen you on a number of forums and places in the Stuttering community and you always appear to be quite hostile and angry all the time. It's like you are waiting for a magic pill to be handed to you and your stutter will be cured, ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

You would probably get a better response from people if you were less aggressive. Just an observation

Michael Williams said...

Hello. My name is Michael Williams and I struggled with stutter for the first 20-30 years of my life.
With a great deal of hard work and consistency I, like many others have been able to replace stuttering and the accompanying thinking with something new.

I was searching the web for Anna Deeter because I've had people come to me before doing her course and after doing it to ask my advice. My heart aches when I hear their stories and the amount of money they've paid without getting long-term results.

She had attacked my approach on some of my videos and in forums before I blocked her.
While I do work with people who stutter, I do not claim a cure in such a short period of time. I fact, I don't claim a cure at all. My approach backed by habit development, learning methodology and neuroscience. There's nothing that I teach that cannot be substantiated or backed up by your own experience.

If I had been given a legitimate offer to work with me and then pay afterward and promote my program, I would have taken it. The problem is, some people are not willing to invest the time and effort to transform their speech. They want something quick and easy and end up being either scammed or disappointed.

Even Anna says that speech is a skill and and habit and you have to do the work! That's the catch.
You CANNOT develop long-term skills and habits in just 3 days! You can learn them. You can see a significant change in your speech in 3 days. But you cannot maintain this without consistent effort over a period of months (more than likely several months).

Our brains change slowly. If you think you can eliminate stuttering completely or even improve substantially in less than a few months time, you're going to get taken. For the vast majority of people this change is just not going to happen in a short period of time. It's simply not how the brain works.

I used to keep my prices low to try to help as many people as I could. I publish al lot of free content that over the years has helped thousands of people world wild. And yes, those people are still speaking well today.

However, I have seen that people in this community are first investing thousands and thousands of dollars in other programs and devices, and then discovering that they either don't work or provide short term relief. Then, many come back and ask me to work with them at a lower rate because they've just spent their money elsewhere but still need the results, results that they now realize my approach can deliver.

My point is, if you're looking for a short cut, you be taken advantaged of. If you simply look at how we learn and develop habits, you'll quickly realize that it will take time and consistency to speak well. I had a guy attending my webinar yesterday who was about to take Anna's $6k course and wanted to know my opinion. So I told him that a guy who I worked with for more than a year, and was severe, but now could speak quite fluently, decided he wanted to accelerate his progress. He paid the money and ended up after a short period of time back where we left off!

Michael Williams said...

You could see the remarkable difference in his before and after video and this was not a short term change. He still maintains the level of speech he had when we stopped. To improve, he'll need to do some more work. In any case, I warned the guy to beware. The allure is, "Wow, if I can get this done in 3 days versus 3 months or more, sure I'll pay 2 to 3 times more money!"

Again, buyer beware!

If you're a professional who doesn't just want to not stutter, but wants to be able to present well, communicate more smoothly, clearly and confidently, then check me out by searching pro90d.

Plenty of free stuff to try out first to see how my approach will work for you. I'll always tell you the truth, and be above board. I'll never take or keep your money if you don't get the results we e agreed upon. The work you have to do is realistic. It's not so demanding that hardly anyone could do it.

I'm not cheap, but you will get results and probably be amazed at your progress in a relatively short period of time.

Anonymous said...

Hi Michael, I was wondering what is your method and what is its success in transferring "classroom" fluency into the real world situations?

Can you give any details on your method and how long it typically takes to attain fluent speech. Also the cost

Thanks

Olesya said...

Dear ladies and gentlemen!

I can claim 100% that Ms. Deeter is unable to help you and save you from stuttering in 3 days with supporting evidence which you’ve not heard about. Don’t believe this nonsense – it is fraud and, I would say, high degree fraud. And here's why.

Anna Deeter was born in Russia. She is a follower of Mr. Roman Snezhko, who claims to be “the author of Etalon.” Mr. Snezhko is not the author of the method, which he uses in reality! He uses a speech reconstructive technique, acquired from open sources, under the authorship of Dr. Svetlana Skoblikova. It is called the “Method of therapeutic rhythmic phonetic speech reconstruction,” and was described in her books “Stuttering: face to face” and “Method of teaching stammering ones to read without stuttering.” It is exactly this reconstructive division of speech which is used by Ms. Deeter and Mr. Snezhko to demonstrate during their lengthy consultations. I’m familiar with Dr. Skoblikova’s method and, first of all, the method was designed for long-term use. As the author claims, adults must use the reconstructive speech form for 1 year, while children – for 6 months. You can familiarize yourself with website of the author, who successfully works with children in correction of stuttering for almost 35 years (there is an English version: http://www.skoblikova.ru/ENG/index.html ). You may also want to read the books, but in Russian. Secondly, the method immediately eliminates stuttering at reading, but for sustainable correction of spontaneous speech there is a need for comprehensive treatment with use of additional components. The course of treatment by Dr. Skoblikova lasts for 28 days, and the rehabilitation period – up to 1 year. Thus, it is understandable where Ms. Deeter and Mr. Snezhko stole the method. In other words, they heard a bell, but don’t know where it is. They beautifully packaged everything and went ahead for the money. Thirdly, Mr. Snezhko is positioning himself as a kind of guru, academician, who revealed truth about stuttering, while Ms. Deeter is positioning herself as his successor. This is nonsense! Mr. Snezhko is not an academician as he calls himself, because a public organization which was created with his participation was called “academy.” Mr. Snezhko has technical education, he is neither a doctor nor a speech therapist; he is no one and has no scientific publications. In Russia, everyone knows about “miracles of Snezhko” and never addresses to him, and now this gentleman makes money through his assistant in rich America. The method of Dr. Svetlana Skoblikova allows both adults and children to begin speaking without stuttering in reality by learning a special speech reconstruction (a special division of speech). However, this effect is used by crooks that can show you speech without stuttering but not notifying, that speech is corrected for a long time. In Russia, Dr. Skoblikova’s method and concept of its application are considered to be the most effective of all, but the author herself almost never accepts adults for treatment – only children, as far as I know. Dr. Skoblikova has her own YouTube channel, where children without stuttering are published, and the results last for more than a few years – it’s very interesting: https://www.youtube.com/user/SBSkoblikova/videos .

Now you know the truth about Ms. Anna Deeter and Mr. Roman Snezhko. Don’t believe them, miracles don’t happen! Come on, 3 days?! Are you willing to pay 8 thousand dollars for it? Then, you are a victim! This scam is aimed directly at you! You can text me anytime; I will answer your questions.

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Anna Deeter said...

Good day, gentlemen!

Here is Anna Deeter. I have been busy with my writing and teaching for the past 5 years unaware that this conversation keeps going on.
I am glad to see the most active players in the field of stuttering gathered here.
I will be brief.
Michael, just for your information, I get more and more students who paid you for your service, invested many months in working with you, but could not take any more of your "tips" and "tricks". They all had a big trust in you. They respected you, but... Just like any man-made technic, method, tip, trick or advice, yours also represent unnatural speaking behavior, which will never lead anyone to becoming a naturally normal speaker. Your former students graduated from the Etalon program - stutter-free. Is their self-training over? Of course, not! They have discovered THEIR OWN speech style - not speaking like Michael Williams or anyone else. They have stopped stuttering (acting irrationally in speech, abusing their own body-mind)... They have become their own speech trainers and no longer need my assistance. Why? How? They know what you and other people who stutter do not know yet: Natural Speech Standards. This simple, yet, golden knowledge has made them powerful. I am telling this to you not to blame you for not knowing. I, myself, learned them only 5 years ago. I would love to share with you and everyone my unique knowledge.
Why don't we stop fighting and combine our genuine efforts to serve millions of struggling people around the world?

Mark and Evan, I would be glad to answer any of your questions and share my 5-year experience with you as well... if you are ready to put your egos far away and learn from the first successor of a genius scientist who does not speak English.
The bottom line, fighting against each other just does not make sence when we all want the same: to free the world from this debilitating condition called stuttering, stammering, cluttering, mumbling, etc. Let politician fight:-)

My offer to all people who genuinely want to assist people who stutter around the world: LET'S STOP FIGHTING! LET'S UNITE OUR EFFORTS!

We are all one nation under God...

I am working around the clock to complete my new book, which I want to serve as the manual. It's tentative title in Russian is "The Stutterer's Bible". I am planning to complete it in Russian this year and then, translate it to English for anyone to use and benefit from this NEW (old, but forgotten) science!

With a lot of love in my heart,
Anna Deeter

Michael Williams said...

Hello Anna,

First, let me say that I believe you may exaggerating your claims of getting more and more people who have paid me, and then took your training and could not take any more of my tips and tricks.

There is one client who did my training and made dramatic changes in his speech (I have the video), and then wanted to get faster results. He financed your training (several thousand dollars) and later discovered after working with you that the results he got only lasted a few weeks.

This same individual later came back to me to say that my approach was a more realistic and long-term approach.

I have another client from Africa who also spent several thousand dollars with you, and is still paying off that debt, and said that the results were very short term. He's doing awesome now.

That being said, let us be honest. We will both have people who want fast results. They will bounce between the two of us looking for the fastest way to stop stuttering. They will play one against the other. This we cannot control, nor will it stop.

The Pro90d Speech System is a scientifically-based approach for helping a person create a new way of speaking and a new way of thinking.

What's the Science?

1. Observational Learning (that's where we get the term modeling).
2. Neuroplasticity: we can create new pathways, and build new behaviors as well as new patterns of thinking (think about someone who anticipates stuttering all the time, or identifies him or herself as a stutterer).
3. Habit Development: Much like the above. We can create new patterns of thought and speech. Speaking is a behavior, and behaviors can be modified, or new ones can be created to replace old ones.

Feel free to research the above.

Speaking like Michael Williams or whomever is, in fact a well-researched way of learning, it's called modeling, which comes from Observational Learning. And, it works. Look it up.

The goal of my approach is to help people become excellent speakers, not stop stuttering. These are two different goals.
We are not in the same business at all.

See My Offer Below!

I am willing to back up my claims by working with a serious individual who is a part of this forum and demonstrate that if they follow my approach for 8-12 weeks they will be able to speak smoothly, and clearly say what they want without the fear of stuttering.

They will not be completely free of disfluencies, however.

WHY?

Because EVERYONE has disfluencies. Research shows that the average person is only fluent around 95-98% of the time.
In the right circumstances, anyone can stutter. It's the Psychological and lasting impact stuttering has on that individual as well as their identity that determines whether or not that person suffers from stuttering.

Back to my offer. I'm willing to prove my approach (at no cost) with the right person.
Are you?

Here are my requirements:

1. The person must be a professional who wants and needs to speak well, and not just stop stuttering
2. They must be willing to devote at least 30 minutes per day of practice
3. They must believe that my approach can work for them.
4. They must be willing to meet once per week for 45 minutes for 8-12 weeks.
5. They must be willing to use what they are learning in their everyday speech.

The purpose of this offer is NOT to demonstrate that Anna Deeter's approach doesn't work, I'm sure it does for some people. It's not to prove that my approach WILL work for 100% of the people who stutter, because it will not. If one is looking for a fast way to get over stuttering then this is not the approach for you.

The purpose of this offer IS to demonstrate that this approach will work for those who want to go beyond not stuttering and are willing to put in the time and work.

"The man with money left with the experience, and the man with experience left with the money."


Warmly,
Michael

Anna Deeter said...

Thank you for reply, Michael.

The reason both you and I are so passionate about our job is the same: we genuinely want to assist people in getting back their adequate skills of oral self-expression. We know that speech is the most magical, accurate and powerful tool we, humans, have in order to live the life we really want.

The only difference between us is our life experience. Your passion is coming from your frustration of a stutterer. You know very well how it feels when you cannot “say what, how and where you want to say it”. My passion is originated from my frustration as a speech professional dealing with stutterers for 30 years in two countries. I know very well how it feels when you cannot efficiently assist someone who cannot “say what, how and where he/she wants to say it”…

We started about the same time, 5 years ago. From the very beginning, I had one advantage and one disadvantage over you, Michael. It was definitely a plus that I never was a stutterer and did not have as much trash-information about speech in my head, as every person who stutters possesses. But at he same time, I did not have the awareness of various psychological mental trash-programs that stutterers carry through their life…. It was my biggest problem. I simply did not know how to communicate my message of truth to them so they would not feel threatened.

I have learned a lot in these years… The next part of this message is coming from my warm heart and cold mind. My goal here is to do my best to explain the reason why what you (and many other good-hearted people!) do is actually more harmful for most people who stutter than helpful…

… Each and every Etalon graduate speaks in ALL existing on the planet natural speech modes at the level of 100% quality at the end of their three-day class. Why?, They have already built the FOUNDATION of their 100% natural normal speech with their intensive Etalon (standard, model, ideal) speech work. THEY CAN SPEAK WITHOUT SPEAKING MISTAKES 100% OF THE TIME. They are like first-graders that can write adequately many words and have built the perfect foundation for learning to write as many new words on their own as they need and desire.

They know exactly what to do in order to be 100% adequate speakers in the now. They WILL definitely (100%) reach their desired speech quality soon IF they do not keep bumping into trash-advisers who recommend something like this: “it is impossible to stop stuttering in 3 days”, “our brain does not work that way”, “practice for 90 days to maintain your airflow, blend words, avoid pauses, use introductory words.”… etc Do you recognize these tips?

I know that you mean well! However, these are man-made, artificial TRASH-recommendations that can only prolong the process of normalization of speech. Yes, of course, they will EVENTUALLY figure it out how to speak normally IN SPITE of these trash-suggestions and they will reach the destination of becoming a decent speaker, but this process will be so much more difficult, painful and lengthy…

The foundation for the Speech Mastery is the ETALON (standard) work. The standard actions are the only true and shortest way to a normal life! All the rest is just TRASH! And this garbage must be removed from the path of a stutterer, so that he does not keep tripping over it.

In 3 days, we simply assist a student in building his work foundation and direct his further development according to the Etalon Speech Standards. After graduation, he will simply have to complete his speech work in full to reach the 100% of the norms. We put a person on the Etalon work path and show him the shortcut to his destination. In order to succeed as soon as possible, he would have to walk forward without any interruptions and delays… But, unfortunatelly, trash-information is everywhere… and there are too many people who prey on these confused (at times) walkers without even realizing this.

Anna Deeter said...

Michael, we help people not because they are “right”. We share our unique knowledge with anyone who comes to us to learn. Etalon works for ALL simply because it is not created by a man. Etalon means standard of measurment, which has been created by Mother Nature or God. We are just little people who will NEVER EVER create anything better than Etalon.

All artificial methods, tips, tricks and advices you give to your clients to try are man-made and extremely harmful. Why they all are useless, what their harmful and destructive consequences for human speech are and how they interfere with the effective recovery of speech in stutterers is explained in detail in the books I have written under the scientific supervision of the author of the Etalon development. I am just the first successor of one brilliant independent scientist who was able to discover a new law of nature and explain it in simple words for us all (including you, Michael!) to learn.

I sincerely hope you hide your ego and read at least one of my books. If you do not understand anything, I would be happy to ansewr any of your questions. There are two books available FREE to download from my website (www.livestutterfree.com) SPEECH IS A SKILL is for sale from Amazon. I am planning to reduce its price in a few months – right after I complete translation from Russian of the manual, called THE STUTERER’S BIBLE…

Your offer to demonstrate that your “approach will work for those who want to go beyond not stuttering and are willing to put in the time and work” made me smile…. People like this rarely have stuttering… Laziness in people who stutter is their main problem… But most of the time, is it not their fault!

Here is our counter offer to you. If you have any so-called “incurable” or “wrong” clients that you stopped communicating with recently, send them to us and we will teach them how they can become normal speakers in only 3 days.

We are ready to take all your so-called "incurable cases" and prove that Etalon is the foundation of the right speech for anybody.

Also, whould you like to teach Etalon Speech Gymnastics one day? If yes, you would need to learn it, get a license to use it and become a huge asset in the return of sanity to our one human race.

With lot’s of love and respect,
Sincerely, Anna Deeter

Michael Williams said...

Hello Anna.

Thanks for your response. There are a few comments you've made that I agree with. However, I'd like to point out a couple of things here.
Without using the word "arrogant", I'd like to say that your usage of the word "TRASH" is all caps, as you refer to our system, demonstrates a pretty high level of disrespect and either a lack of knowledge or pure ignorance of certain aspects of speech.

Here's a fact for you, modeling, a component of Observational Learning is ONE of the oldest and effective ways of learning. It's how we learned to speak and perform many other activities in the first place. Many well known people who stuttered have used modeling to improve their speech, and change their identities from stutterers to amazing speakers.

NOT stuttering is not the same as being able to speak well. You may be able to speak normally, but that's still not having mastery over your ability to command a room or articulate clearly and intelligently your thoughts. These abilities are skills, which means they can be taught and learned.

We're not trying to fix or treat stuttering, we are replacing it with a better way of speaking and thinking. For many people who stutter, and you would understand this better if you had stuttered, there is a heavy Psychological dimension to their speech. There are situations I which they are 100% fluent. Their is nothing wrong with their natural ability to speak well.

Addressing this aspect along with teaching speaking skills that virtually ALL good to great speakers use simply makes sense, and it works. If someone has been struggling with both the physical and psychological impact of stuttering for decades and then believe that in 3 days they can learn how to change or eliminate that, then they may be only partially right.

What? Yes, they may be able to LEARN HOW to address the physical aspect. But as you've said, they have to continue their journey. I can tell you that to continue this journey within regular support is definitely not impossible, certainly quite difficult to say the least.

So, I'm not going to be arrogant and say that your approach is TRASH. I'm sure you've helped many people and will continue. People have choices, and I hope they make the best one for them not based on desperation for a quick fix or cure, but based on the science. My approach is an open book. You can test it for yourself before paying a dime. You can research the components of it.

Finally, we don't have incurable clients. We have people who just stop or give up because it takes effort. Learning a new skill and changing a pattern IS hard. Learning a new language takes time, practice and patience. If one doesn't learn it, it's not because the system they are using doesn't work. It's probably because they just didn't feel like putting in the time and effort to learn it.

This is the equivalent to saying we will teach you another language in 3 days, then it's up to you to continue your learning journey. Now pay us $6-8k. Sure some may succeed, but. . .

Anna Deeter said...

Good day, Michael!

Yes, I may appear disrespectful and... intolerant at times of what "stuttering cure" experts say and do today, but I am coming not from "a lack of knowledge or pure ignorance".... It is quite the opposite....

Being involved in helping others, we all are passionate about our work and really want to make a difference in the life of our clients. And we all do! But the ways we do it are quite different. It is based on our personal experience, knowledge and skills.

Unfortunately, a big number of people who stutter suffer from deception and "lie induced" laziness... They are unaware that their speech mastery is the result of their speech work (what kind of work though?) . You are definitely not one of them:-) I do respect your passion and your hard work. In fact, we both are workaholics:-)

This is why, I take my time to respond to your message here. I want your collaboration, not confrontation! I believe that only TOGETHER we can rid humanity off this fraud called "stuttering cure" and unnecessary suffering. So, let's leave all our emotions out of this conversation and focus on the topic of speech and stuttering, shell we?

Yes, what you are offering to your clients really make sense TO YOU - based on YOUR experience linked to the old MISTAKEN "stuttering cure" approach. Representatives of this approach assume (mistakenly!) that because stutterers' speech is physically broken, they need to replace it with the way OTHERS speak. It may sound logical, but...

The reality is that when people who stutter attempt to get rid of their natural and comfortable for them (God given!) inborn speaking style, they attempt to eliminate their own UNIQUE personality.... Their authentic speech reflects who they are at the present moment, who God (or, Mother Nature) created them to be. But because a stutterer (deceived by others) is convinced that he (his speech style) is "not good enough", he begins modeling the speech-life style of OTHERS and switches from his own physiologically comfortable identity to becoming them....

(This criminal approach was invented in Russia at the end of 19th century by one soulless Psychiatrist (not a speech expert!!!) and a dirty politician, who made a fortune off his invention:-( His name is hidden from English-speaking readers... He is well known only in Russia... If you want to learn more, please, go to my website and download my FREE e-book A TALE OF TWO GENIUSES IN STUTTERING. You will find a lot of historical data there that I translated from Russian: www.livestutterfree.com )

So, based on the assumption that millions of UNIQUE people on the planet are not worthy, that they need to "change their identities" and become someone else in order to be accepted by the modern society, thousands of good hearted people (mostly stutterers themselves) around the globe started to develop and sell their "methods", "tips", "strategies", "techniques", "steps" of how to "improve speaking" and become... someone else.... The modeling technique is sure one of the best ways to accomplish such an inhuman goal. This is why it takes so much work and time for the participants of your and other "stuttering cure" programs .... Stutterers are being forced to become foreigners to their own spiritual, cultural and language identity.... They have to start from scratch their lives..... It is a really painful, time and energy consuming process with no clarity of when their dream will become a reality.... It is wondering in the darkness of unknown... Along with other stuttering trainers, you, Michael, have been giving your life to this cause!!! I solute your passionate intention to help others, but...

Anna Deeter said...

Why is it that it does not make sense to YOU that EVERY Etalon student CAN begin speaking without mistakes without changing his own unique identity, while remaining in his own speech style almost instantly.... in only 3 days of HIS intensive Etalon speech work? Because you simply are still unaware of the revolutionary discovery of the NATURAL SPEECH STANDARDS. Such a "miracle" can happen only at he moment when a 100% physically healthy person discovers and begins to follow the NATURAL SPEECH STANDARDS.

What are they? The NATURAL SPEECH STANDARDS are a set of instructions of the "User's Manual" that we, people, follow while operating adequately our most intelligent machine called "body-mind". Yes, this is a revolutionary science that you may not be familiar with, Michael. We, humans, learn to operate our own "body-mind" system in the same way we learn to use any other device: cellphone or computer. When we use a device according to its user manual's instructions and push the right buttons, it works in coordination and without interruptions. But if we do not know how to operate it correctly and act blindly ("by trial and error"), the device will fail to work properly.

This is exactly what happens with stutterers - people with a healthy body, but unhealthy (confused) mind! However, their problem is NOT BIOLOGICAL, not medical! It is INFORMATIONAL. Stutterers are like computers infected with a virus! Therefore, such informational damage of their mind is EASY TO SOLVE in almost no time and not in some unknown future, but right NOW!!! People who stutter simply do not know (never experienced) what etalon (standard) actions to perform when they speak! From the young age they thought that they needed to use some special "methods", "techniques", etc. to speak... The moment they receive and begin operating their "body-mind" according to the Etalon instructions, their stuttering (improper way of using their system) disappears right away!!!

Stutterers do not need to change their identity! They should simply begin to operate their body-mind according to the User's Manual"!!! Etalon is this manual.

Now, what kind of speech work do we, Etalon Educators, recommend our students do after they became normal speakers in only 3 days? SPEAK! SPEAK! SPEAK! SPEAK!!! To catch up with years of following all kinds of "techniques" and "methods"... We recommend they MASTER THEIR (not someone else's!) SPEECH STYLE in every situation that used to be "challenging" for them. Our graduates must simply speak just like they did in and outside of the Etalon classroom. Naturally, easily... No "techniques", "methods", or "steps"!!! Many are advised to do some speech work to increase their vocabulary. Over the years of "not speaking", "speaking only in case of emergency" and "speaking with techniques" programming to break words in parts, they never learned or forgot the WHOLE meaningful words.... How can anyone speak without knowing words???

Anna Deeter said...

Regarding your recommendation to anyone to "test" your system "for yourself before paying a dime."... I did. I interviewed one of your "boot camp" and self-study participants and the recent STUTTER-FREE Etalon graduate in a week after his graduation. Please, watch the 3 part video report with the results of my "research". I would never call this young man one of those "people who just stop or give up because it takes effort". He appeared as a HARD working and rational person. And so was his FATHER!

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyX1EvYiyoNTDIL_QrghI6NHxGK8AeIkZ

The bottom line, I invite you, Michael, and other good hearted people to collaborate with us. You have a choice today: to continue prolonging suffering in your confused clients by giving them a lot of your "stuttering cure" methods and techniques.... or LEARN THE NATURAL SPEECH STANDARDS yourself and begin assisting your clients in discovering these clear speech instructions of Mother Nature for their benefit as soon as possible!

We are planning to conduct the first 3-day Etalon webinar for the future Etalon Speech educators next month. E-mail me directly if you are interested in my offer.

Hope to see you soon and assist you the best way I can.

Sincerely, Anna Deeter

June, 7, 2017